Deconstructing Hell with Brian Recker

On the latest episode of the Blank Page podcast, I had the chance to sit down with Brian Recker, author of the forthcoming book Hellbent. Brian brings a fascinating background to the conversation—he’s a former Marine officer, son of a Baptist preacher, graduate of Bob Jones University, and spent eight years as an evangelical pastor before becoming a leading voice in the world of progressive Christian thought and social media.

In Hell Bent, Brian takes a hard look at the doctrine of hell and the ways fear of eternal punishment has shaped evangelical theology, church culture, and even American history. Our conversation digs into why hell has been such a powerful force, how it connects to systems of control like white supremacy and slaveholder religion, and the risks pastors face when questioning long-held doctrines.

We also talk about:

• What happens when your employment depends on your theology?

• Why fear and guilt have been used as motivators in the church—and what healthier alternatives might look like.

• The overlap of Christian nationalism, capitalism, and American politics.

• Navigating family relationships when beliefs diverge.

• The ongoing process of deconstruction, and why it doesn’t have to mean walking away from Jesus.

• What the future of the church could look like if belonging and mutual aid were central.

Brian’s book releases September 30, and he’s offering pre-order bonuses that include practical tools for anyone wrestling with questions about hell and faith.

This is an essential conversation for pastors, church leaders, and anyone who has ever struggled with a fear-based approach to religion. I encourage you to listen in—and then pick up a copy of Hell Bent.